Six years ago this week, the Yankees and Red Sox played a four-game series at Yankee Stadium with first place on the line. The Yankees swept that series on their way to winning the AL East and the World Series and that was basically the last time the Yankees and Red Sox played a meaningful late-season series.

Back in 2004, I thought the two teams would meet in the postseason every year forever, but they haven’t seen each other in the playoffs since Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS. The Yankees and Red Sox have only been in the postseason at the same time in three seasons (2005, 2007 and 2009) since and they won’t be once again this season.

The Boston Globe columnist Dan Shaughnessy joined me to talk about the fading Yankees-Red Sox rivalry, his relationship with David Ortiz, covering the Red Sox before and after 2004, the Red Sox’ fluky 2013 championship, the evolution and state of sports media, if Larry Lucchino stepping down is good for the Red Sox and how his book, Francona: The Red Sox Years, came together.